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This past weekend, The Sunday Times published an interview with Matt Damon in which the global film star and humanitarian said that he had recently only stopped using the word āfaggotā (for those who have no contact with the outside world, thatās an infamously anti-gay slur) after he told a ājokeā with the term and his daughter wrote a ātreatiseā asking him to stop using it.
Iām not making this up. Hereās the actual bit from the interview:
Last night, following quite a bit of social media controversy over the revelation, Damon released a statement insisting that heās never used the word āfaggotā (he said āf-slurā in the statement) in his āpersonal lifeā and gave a rather interesting explanation for it, the quote which Iāll post in full here out of fairness:
Look, I like Matt Damon a lot, and so, I donāt want what Iām about to say to be taken as some call for a boycott of his work. Thatās not what Iām trying to do here. When these moments happen, itās important to unpack whatās going on. We all need to be open to learning and preventing things like this in the future.
So, right off the top, letās be honest here: Matt Damon has clearly said āfaggotā recently, and we know this because he told an interviewer on-the-record that he said āfaggotā in a joke in a manner that made his daughter leave the table and write him a primer on how not to be a homophobic asshole.
I donāt know what the hell he and his reps are doing with that clarification statement, which asks us not to believe something he clearly said in the interview. And also, it just doesnāt feel like it was written by him.
And also: I still wanna know what ājokeā he told his daughter at the dinner table that included the word āfaggotā?
There are some who believeāand I must admit this crossed my mind, tooāthat this weird anecdote he told in the interview was meant to be a marketing move for Damonās new film Stillwater, in which he plays a good ole boy (some might uncharitably compare his character to a Trump voter) whoās trying to save his queer daughter.
I guess, perhaps, he and his team may have thought that offering a āteaching momentā through an instance of Damon being homophobic and his daughter schooling him on it and Damon being open to changing and learning and how weāre all imperfect would be a great way of underlining his characterās story.
I donāt know if thatās true, and normally, Iād be disinclined to believe that PR folks behind a major motion picture would be that terribly oblivious, but then again, I also didnāt expect to get online this week and find out that Matt Damon, more or less, admitted he still says āfaggotā in the year of our Lord twenty-twenty-one.
Call me naive. Thatās fine. Iām definitely feeling naive lately.
When I wrote on Twitter about my disappointment and sadness over this, I suppose I shouldnāt have been surprised to see some well-meaning straight and cisgender folks pop up in my mentions to inform me that I shouldnāt be sad and that this is a really good thing.
āHeās admitting heās wrong! Isnāt that what we should all want? Why are you sad?ā
Iām glad he admitted heās wrong. Iām glad that Matt Damon, who has been working around LGBTQ folks for more than three decades, who has a long track record of considerable humanitarian work and political advocacy, has now landed on the conclusion that using the word āfaggotā is wrong.
Sigh.
Let me tell you: if this had played out in the same exact way with a prominent conservative, I donāt think these same folks would be so kind and understanding in their response.
Iām also not saying that Matt Damon is any way, shape, or form like some social conservative hellbent on marginalizing LGBTQ people.
I donāt think Matt Damon hates LGBTQ people, and I donāt think he would ever call me a āfaggotā. I have no problem believing he wants full equality for LGBTQ people.
But hereās my question for everyone: if Matt Damon is struggling to understand something this basic, what does that say about other grown, cis, straight white men who are navigating our changing world?
I have a feeling the folks who were defending Damon were, in fact, defending the white, straight, cis men in their lives who say problematic or borderline or outright offensive things occasionally.
What these folks donāt understand is that their brother/uncle/dad/grandpa isnāt Matt Damon, and what should be āobviousā to Matt Damon ā with all the exposure heās had to other people, his experiences, his privilege, his success in the arts ā isnāt necessarily so for the garden variety white guy who says something hurtful.
Thatās why it feels especially discouraging to me. Because Matt Damon should know better, and I believe he does. He just didnāt care enough about it to do the right thing and stop using the word.
And if Matt Damon, full-well knowing itās wrong, doesnāt care enough to stop using a homophobic slur, what does that say about white men who donāt have his privilege and experience?
There are also folks who claim that this will make it easier for the white, straight, cis men in their lives to be more vulnerable about curbing their own homophobia.
I really do think thatās a nice thought, but Iām not so optimistic. I think this could work the exact opposite way.
I think men like your dad/uncle/grandpa could see Damon say all this and think:
"Wow, even I don't say that word, and bleeding heart Damon does. I'm way ahead of the curve on this one. Maybe I'm not overthinking trans kids playing sports. Maybe my moral compass is doing just fine."
I can feel the exasperation of some of you reading this. Youāre so tired of LGBTQ equality being debated, and now, not only is there no end in sight but it turns out some of your loved ones arenāt really open to change and thatās coming to a head, as very public incidents like this remind you.
So, you feel the need to contextualize and anesthetize and go into a broader conversation about how weāre all imperfect and trying our best.
But weāre not all trying our best, are we?
Letās at least admit that.
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No, we are not tired of hearing you talk about this. You are a valuable and brilliant voice. Don't stop.
I felt a Truman World thing yesterday when I tried to Google the story of Ben Affleck and Matt Damon basically plagiarizing Goodwill Hunting- stealing the screenplay from a Black guy who wrote it first, paying him next to nothing (or maybe nothing) and giving him zero credit. But that story has been completely wiped from the face of the Internet. Anyone else remember this? I donāt get why Damon gets credit for being progressive when heās playing a Trumper? Thereās nothing ironic about an over privileged white guy pretending to be a Trumper. And it was total shit that he was Liberace. When do gay people get to play gay people?! Itās lazy and pathetic that when there are endless talented LGBT š³ļøāš actors theyāre still hiring straight cis folks for the roles. Akin to Blackface. Isnāt Stillwater a rip off of Amanda Knoxās story? And she blasted them for using her and throwing her under the bus.
A couple years ago I was at a friendās cottage and her gay artist friend was staying in the loft, and my friend offhandedly used the expression āthatās so gayā in a derogatory manner as a joke. And Iād literally never heard anyone say that and didnāt understand what she meant- so I asked for clarification and she realized this friend of a friend upstairs overheard and walked out and it was super weird feeling.
Weāre all swimming in bigotry and hatefulness. Tina Fey used Blackface like four times on 30 Rock, once with Jon Hamm. Itās all so sickening that weāve given everyone a pass. The one Iād love for you take down Charlotte is Brits using the c word. Brits also love to call cigarettes fags which is also lazy and gross š¤® like itās some cute inside joke and they get a pass because everyone does it there.
Thank you for speaking up and as Chris Rock says- Keep punching up. Donāt punch down.
Language matters. LGBT š³ļøāā§ļø Folx matter.